tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post3259586776666577145..comments2024-03-28T19:18:40.387-04:00Comments on Northern Reflections: His Word Is Not His BondOwen Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-47324203166053836212016-09-27T23:03:04.487-04:002016-09-27T23:03:04.487-04:00Trump is a world class liar, but I feel Hillary is...Trump is a world class liar, but I feel Hillary is worse because she is a total phoney where Trump assumes we all are in on the con. Both will bring disaster, Hillary will bring Neo Con highway and Trump Chaos. I vote chaos.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-51589031859371233702016-09-27T16:06:49.899-04:002016-09-27T16:06:49.899-04:00There is plenty of reason for anger, Toby. But I s...There is plenty of reason for anger, Toby. But I should think that being lied to consistently would really make the protesters boil.Owen Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-37602977914738047702016-09-27T15:34:35.502-04:002016-09-27T15:34:35.502-04:00Owen Gray said, "I won't bet on the outco...Owen Gray said, "I won't bet on the outcome either, Toby. But I do marvel at how such a blatant liar has come this far."<br /><br />Trump has come this far only because Clinton represents the establishment. Trumps support is the protest vote. There are American voters who would happily elect Charlie Manson if they could; such is the anger. <br /><br />Think Brexit: it's the same motive for essentially the same reasons. If you can't influence the leaders by acting within the system then you overthrow it. Tobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-39348793928904738492016-09-27T14:21:58.060-04:002016-09-27T14:21:58.060-04:00The problem is, Dana, that -- as Trump's Repub...The problem is, Dana, that -- as Trump's Republican opponents discovered -- when you sink to Trump's level, it just becomes a shouting match. The only response to The Big Lie is a big "NO!"Owen Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-73838004235633276802016-09-27T14:17:20.121-04:002016-09-27T14:17:20.121-04:00I guess the lesson, Mound, is that you can go a lo...I guess the lesson, Mound, is that you can go a long way if you tell people what they want to hear -- regardless of whether it is true or false.Owen Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-85789267083134839362016-09-27T14:13:57.348-04:002016-09-27T14:13:57.348-04:00I won't bet on the outcome either, Toby. But I...I won't bet on the outcome either, Toby. But I do marvel at how such a blatant liar has come this far.Owen Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-2184818295441796822016-09-27T11:50:17.269-04:002016-09-27T11:50:17.269-04:00What Trump says or what he might do if elected doe...What Trump says or what he might do if elected doesn't matter. This election has nothing to do with reason; it an emotional roller coaster. As such, the polls can't tell us anything useful because those who vote will make up their minds as they walk into the booth. I won't bet on the outcome. Tobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-84119354201735803982016-09-27T11:48:37.840-04:002016-09-27T11:48:37.840-04:00"I don't see it that way." Christ, S..."I don't see it that way." Christ, Steve is beginning to sound like Trump. "Don't confuse me with the facts. I don't see it that way." It's a pretty amazing rhetorical device.<br /><br />Regardless of how Steve sees it, the debate was fairly well fact-checked and it became inescapably obvious that the liar of the evening, of the primaries, of the presidential campaign was, and continues to be, Donald J. Trump.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-79694018386404639932016-09-27T11:19:47.023-04:002016-09-27T11:19:47.023-04:00Owen, you're responding to Steve in precisely ...Owen, you're responding to Steve in precisely the same way most of the US media have responded to Trump and his supporters. You might want to think about that. Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465953801145126160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-12574081694318921702016-09-27T10:48:10.039-04:002016-09-27T10:48:10.039-04:00You're right to feel that -- economically -- y...You're right to feel that -- economically -- you've been unfairly treated, Steve. But, from what I can gather, Trump would make things worse, not better.Owen Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-15500919545749553052016-09-27T10:20:55.274-04:002016-09-27T10:20:55.274-04:00I dont see it that way. The number of lies is not ...I dont see it that way. The number of lies is not important, its what you are lying about. Free trade is a extisential disaster IMHO. Lying about that Trumps the birther movement, now global warming thats a similar sized whopper. The truth is that Hillary and the neocons created the world we live in today. Trump needs to make her wear it, and I thought with ISIS he did a make a few flesh wounds. Now if he told the truth about Syria, Ukraine and the USA it would be fatal. Either he would be shot or Hillary would lose all credibilty.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-46652245486771100552016-09-27T10:02:39.194-04:002016-09-27T10:02:39.194-04:00You're creating false equivalencies, Steve.You're creating false equivalencies, Steve.Owen Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35117130.post-49172416505746124292016-09-27T09:09:31.209-04:002016-09-27T09:09:31.209-04:00No doubt Trump fabricates. Hillary matches him, an...No doubt Trump fabricates. Hillary matches him, and lead with the whopper that she did not support the TPP. Thats the big lie.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.com