Wednesday, January 17, 2018

Only Votes Will Do It


Yesterday, Dr. Ronny Jackson gave Donald Trump a clean bill of health. So much for the fantasy that Trump's ill health will remove him from office. Likewise, even if Robert Mueller finds Trump guilty of money laundering and obstruction of justice -- which seems ever more likely -- a Republican controlled congress will not impeach him.

It's clear, Jonathan Freedland writes, that only democracy will remove Trump:

The truth is, there are no quick fixes. Even if Jackson or Mueller came up with devastating findings, the act of removing Trump will fall to the Congress, currently in the hands of a Republican party that shows no appetite for standing up to the president. That’s what will have to change – which means Democrats doing the hard work of winning this November’s midterm elections. Neither the Feds nor a doctor in a white coat will do it for them: Americans will have to end this nightmare themselves.

Which means that Americans themselves are going to have to administer the final blow. If they give Democrats control of both houses, Trump will be gone. If they don't do that, their country will be  in -- to use the president's own words -- a "shithole."

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14 comments:

Steve said...

I was correct about this. I am still confident the collusion is a similar case.
If all the deluded sheeple that bought the conspiracy theory get simultaneous cognitive dissonance Trump might be responsible for the greatest awakening in history.

Owen Gray said...

Proving that Trump did something and holding him accountable are two different propositions, Steve.

Steve said...

Now I have cognitive dissonance:)
Yes the voters can hold Trump accountable. What I hope is the pendulum just does not swing back to Obama like rule. The US needs a real opposition, not just Kabubi theater with the actors laughing all the way to the bank, while the directors never change.

Owen Gray said...

Alot will depend on what Americans call "Dark Money," Steve.

Steve said...

Case in point Owen.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/16/politics/senate-fisa-bill/index.html

Owen Gray said...

As long as the Republicans control both houses, Steve, Trump will stay put.

Steve said...

My point is the democracts sided with the Republicans to make the 4th amendment worthless.

Owen Gray said...

And what exactly does that have to do with Trump's longevity, Steve?

Steve said...

It makes no difference how long he lasts. Like the Who said.

Owen Gray said...

I disagree. The longer he stays, the worse the mess -- not only for the United States, but for the rest of the world -- gets.

The Mound of Sound said...


It strikes me this is all conjecture bordering on the infamous "wild-ass guess" until the votes are counted in November. At stake won't just be the balance of seats between Democrat and Republican but, perhaps more importantly, the face of the Republican Congressional caucus into the future.

There has been a flurry of announcements of veteran Republican legislators who intend to leave Congress rather than stand for re-election. In swing states they're probably afraid of the Trump factor turning voters to the Democrats. But others, such as Jeff Flake, are leaving reliably Republican states such as Arizona. They're not afraid of Democrats but of the radical Tea Party insurgency within their own camp.

Even Trump has been moving to distance himself somewhat from the radicals but he's made his bed. Those radicals represent what remains of his base, his loyalists. There are others who, while they may be craven, are not crazy. It will be interesting to see what the Republican caucus looks like in the wake of this exodus.

Owen Gray said...

I agree, Mound. What the next election will tell us is exactly how far the Tea Party insurgency has gone in the Republican Party. If the party can hang on to a few non Tea Partiers, the Republican numbers could still be hard to deal with.

If Trump's base is all that's left of the party, the game is over.

Anonymous said...

I don't see any way to impeachment. Impeaching Trump requires a 2/3rds majority vote in the Senate. No matter what happens in November, the Dems will not have the votes needed.

A best-case scenario sees the Dems with a bare majority (including the independents who caucus with them). They'll have to convince 15 Republican senators to impeach, which is highly unlikely since "moderates" like Jeff Flake are leaving. That leaves the hard-core, no negotiation, no surrender extremists.

By comparison, Nixon was forced out of office when nine GOP senators said they'd vote to impeach. And that was when the GOP was still anchored in reality instead of a Randian fiction.

Cap

Owen Gray said...

Good point, Cap. But Democratic majorities might guarantee that he'd be left completely impotent. These days he's not doing too well, even with Republican majorities in both houses.